Le Kainos

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Le Kainos

Postby Draftnik » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 12:08 PM

Finished the Le Kainos finally this weekend. Only flew it in the back yard, I think it'll take some more bridle tweeks to get it right out on the field. I used alot of by-quess-and by-golly on it. It's using 4' wooden dowels for spars so it's quite a bit smaller then the plans I was using off kitebuider. It's actaully a pretty simple kite to build and I'm hoping to crank outa 'nother one this week for the Color the Wind festival. I'll get more pics of that one as I build it.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 12:47 PM

very pretty.
I have a small yard and in the yard the wind swirls around the house. My kites always fly much better out in a real field.
Looking forward to seeing the photos of building of the next one.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Babbman » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 01:58 PM

that's really a cool looking kite....

Nice job!

I can't fly crap in my yard... I'm lucky to get a gust good enough to inflate a catherine's wheel....

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Jim Foster » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 02:48 PM

That is really a very nice looking kite. I've never seen that design before.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Chris » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 05:24 PM

Great looking kite Draftnik! :up: Look forward to seeing this one in the air. :-D
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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Jim Foster » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 07:02 PM

Draftnik

Your nice new kite gave me an idea. :idea:

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 07:55 PM

That would be cool. Leave the opening in the middle and it's a vented version.
What do you think Draftnik? Think this design could be made into a quad?

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby JJ » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 08:09 PM

:lol: I thought for a second we had another whiplash kitemaker on our hands!

I think the build plans mention using a three point handle flying option. I'm not going to dig into that, you multiline nuts are welcome to knock yourselves out. :)

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Hector Herrera » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 08:58 PM

GO FOR IT DRAFTNICK!!!
A quad with your design it would be Awesome!

I love it.
Ohh... and get a patent for it...You may have something worth some $$$$$$$
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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Jim Foster » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 08:59 PM

Right, Mike, and the size of the opening would be controlled, somewhat, by drawing and letting out the line holding the three pieces at the center.

What do you think? Should it be built? Will it fly with the two triangular frames or should it have a rev-like frame, retaining the thin, curved spars? In any case, I think a rev-like bridle will be needed.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 09:38 PM

I think you can fly almost anything if you put 4 strings on it.
The rev flies because you control each of it's two triangles separately, so this should work.
It probably wont fly as well as a rev, but it'll fly better than the quad-pig we were flying a few club flies ago.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Chris » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 09:41 PM

Yes :shock: I've never flown a real pig, but I think you're quad pig flies just like one! :rotfl :roll:
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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Babbman » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 09:56 PM

I love pork

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Jim Foster » Tue, Feb 13 2007, 10:40 PM

Here is a quad I saw at San Ramon last May.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Frodos Majik » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 12:52 AM

Great looking kite Draftnik!! :up: As to you too Jim!! :up:

With all the great looking, shaped and uniqueness of everybody's designs. The ideas are ENDLESS!! :shock: :mrviolet:
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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 07:24 AM

Those quad sabers are pretty rare, I forget who was making them.
Have you seen the quad cursor kite? It looked like a computer mouse cursor, you know an arrow.

wait, I'll google it.....

Thanks for waiting :-D , here it is:
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It looks like it would fly about as well as the pig.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Jim Foster » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 12:39 PM

Seen one? Heck, I made one. Yup, flys about like the pig.

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 02:05 PM

cool!
Now, if you were going to make another one....
What if the arrow part was bigger and the bridling was mostly on the arrow portion with the stem being more of a stiff tail.
Larger, because larger is much more stable and easier to fly.
Bridling more on the arrow portion so that you can steer the kite by twisting the halves of the arrow. Kind of like a quaded dual-line kite.

I know, I know, if I'm so full of ideas, why don't I make one myself. :oops:

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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Draftnik » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 02:56 PM

Did you take Kisa's class at MAKR last year Mike? Anyone? She's got some really cool artsy quads. http://gallery.oswaldism.de/china05?image=12

Maybe you sacrafice some control for the astetics, but they'd still be crowd pleasers.

One of the things I like about these European kites, is they're very inspiring. I could go into creative overload looking at oversea's kite sites.

Oh, and the only spars on the Le Kanios are the bent ones on the inside of the sails. There's no outer spars.
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Re: Le Kainos

Postby Mike » Wed, Feb 14 2007, 04:24 PM

I didn't take Kisa's class. She does make really cool kites. I'm afraid I don't have the artistic talent she has though.
I like the idea of the spars on the Le Kainos. I'm looking forward to seeing it (them) in the air.


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