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swannie
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Zen

Postby swannie » Wed, Mar 26 2014, 07:34 PM

I've seen a few Zens come up for sale recently, and it has me thinking about them again. I'd be curious to get some opinions ... I know it flys different then a 1.5, etc. but I'm interested to get some input on them from the group. :)

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Re: Zen

Postby Mike » Wed, Mar 26 2014, 08:56 PM

It's been a while since I've flown one, and I don't own one. But as I recall, it felt slower than a 1.5. Much closer to a Rev 1, if you've flown one of those.

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Re: Zen

Postby swannie » Wed, Mar 26 2014, 09:23 PM

Mike wrote:It's been a while since I've flown one, and I don't own one. But as I recall, it felt slower than a 1.5. Much closer to a Rev 1, if you've flown one of those.


I have ... but not often, I was curious what the difference is between them, I believe the Zen has more sail area?

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Re: Zen

Postby goestoeleven » Wed, Mar 26 2014, 09:51 PM

I have some pictures of a Zen & Rev 1 together. The size is almost identical, but the sail geometry is slightly different. I believe they probably had some expert guidance in fine tuning the geometry to optimize the performance for lighter winds / slower flying. The belly in the middle is deeper with more sail area, less likely to "bow-tie." The vertical rods are closer to the center, and the leading edge has a bit more arc than the Rev 1. Pics follow.

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Re: Zen

Postby Love2fly » Wed, Mar 26 2014, 10:44 PM

Hi swannie. ...
I have a Zen.
They load up a lot more than a 1.5 in light winds, as there is a lot more sail area to "grab" the wind. It flies slower than the 1.5 and the turning is a bit slower, too. Generally speaking, you fly it just like the 1.5. You still need to know light wind techniques.
I hope this helps you. If you have ant questions, feel free to ask..

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Re: Zen

Postby Mike » Thu, Mar 27 2014, 08:46 AM

Thanks for the photos, Steve. If you put a stiff frame in there, I bet it would pull like a truck!

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Re: Zen

Postby goestoeleven » Thu, Mar 27 2014, 09:18 AM

Mike wrote:Thanks for the photos, Steve.


No problem. BTW, those are not mine - they belong to the Decorators. I don't own a Zen, but I do have a Rev 1 (or two) if you want to try one out. I used to have a Rev 1 SUL, which probably is more similar to a Zen, but I sold that a while back.

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Re: Zen

Postby Love2fly » Thu, Mar 27 2014, 12:41 PM

Hi Guys....
There is a difference between the Rev 1 and the Zen. The Zen's center is deeper, more in the ratio of a 1.5. The Rev 1 is very narrow at the center (inverted "V"). I have found that it is easily bowtied because of it. The Zen is much more stable...IMHO.

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Re: Zen

Postby Jynx » Thu, Mar 27 2014, 10:58 PM

I was ready to "dump" mine until I gave David K a spin with it some years ago... There was little to no wind at all and he made it dance like a puppet!

He really liked it and offered to buy it (since it had sat in my bag for years)! ...IF he would have offered BEFORE he showed me what it could do...I Would have! :-P

Now it's my -5 mph Rev... and once you get the hang of it... it's magical! ...(Though still not what a 1.5 is in 8+)

Thanks to David for the show!!!!!! :up:
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Re: Zen

Postby cadguy » Wed, Apr 02 2014, 07:01 PM

Oh... Now you tell me Jynx!
For the very few times that I would fly a Zen, is why I don't have one... yet...
Anyone know who bought JBs blue fade Zen he just sold to raise funds for his cross country trip?... Jynx?

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Re: Zen

Postby Jynx » Fri, Apr 04 2014, 09:41 AM

No idea????
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