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First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 02:06 PM
by basicbill
After my water bottle weight test from a few weeks ago I decided to order the Jones KAP rig for my GoPro camera. Keeping it simple. But even though I did the weight test using my Prism Delta, I decided I "needed" a different lifter. The UltraFoil 15 kite from Into the Wind seems to have a decent reputation in the KAP community so I purchased one. (Plus I just like how it looks.)

The other day I did an "unboxing" video of the UltraFoil 15. http://youtu.be/O5ahgK_vyS0

Today, at the East Side Sports Complex in St. Charles, I attached the Jones KAP rig with camera to the 150 pound line on the UltraFoil 15 and let fly.
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I had the camera set to capture a frame every 10 seconds. First photo:
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Things got better:
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Not all were on the level.
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But most, surprisingly, were.
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The way I had it aimed is great for KAP selfies. (Recommend me some better gloves other than my old gardening gauntlets.)
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That's about it. Now to find a few actual subjects.

Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 04:52 PM
by Mike
Cool! Makes for a great selfie!

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 07:13 PM
by Mytoyz
if you have the wifi adapter for the gopro, you can view the shots and video as well as control all features of the camera. I used mine at grand haven for the first time and worked really well. Plus you don't have to delete all the photos that are duplicates.

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 07:43 PM
by basicbill
Mytoyz wrote:if you have the wifi adapter for the gopro, you can view the shots and video as well as control all features of the camera. I used mine at grand haven for the first time and worked really well. Plus you don't have to delete all the photos that are duplicates.


Yep I used my phone app to monitor what was going on. Turn it on and off and such.

Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 08:09 PM
by goestoeleven
Very nice . . .

I'll have to check out that KAP rig. Mine currently consists of a home made picavet . . . no controls . . . just launch & see what you get.

Next time you're going to East Side, post here first (if you want company). You might get some fellow IKE folks to show up (although I was not in town yesterday).

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sun, Jun 29 2014, 09:03 PM
by basicbill
Thanks. I live so close to East Side that most of my excursions there are last minute things. Just went there for some sunset flying just because it's close and there was a nice breeze. Had the whole place to myself except for a distant baseball field in use.

Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 12:03 AM
by makatakam
Is that East Side Sports Complex, south of 64 and east of Kirk?

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 06:03 AM
by basicbill
makatakam wrote:Is that East Side Sports Complex, south of 64 and east of Kirk?


Yes. Between 64 and 38. East side of Kirk on Legacy Blvd.

Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 07:29 AM
by KiteVoice
Very cool pics!

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 07:52 AM
by TMadz
very nice bill.

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 08:44 AM
by Jeepster
basicbill wrote:... (Recommend me some better gloves other than my old gardening gauntlets.) ...


Even a 15 sq ft kite can burn you in a split second with a wind gust. Since line burns hurt like crazy, wearing gloves is a great idea. One of my friends ended up in the emergency room at the last kite festival due to a line burn.

Costco sells a package of three Wells Lamont all leather gloves for around $15. With three pairs I've tucked them in the Jeep, cloths bag and single line accessory bag ... thus, no excuse for not having a pair handy. The main problem with the full cover gloves is that it's impossible to work knots and small stuff with the gloves. Thus, I'm going to try some 'half-finger" gloves (rock climbing, mechanics, bicycle riders, etc) next. For KAP work, they may be the perfect answer.

As to your KAP work ... I'm not looking ... seriously, I'm not looking ... I absolutely don't need "one more thing" to grab my interest ... well, maybe a peek ... they are good ... hmmm ... yep, they're good ... hmmm ...

Cheers,
Tom

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 10:06 AM
by goestoeleven
Hey basicbill -

Question for you - is that KAP rig remote controllable or fixed? I'm guessing "fixed" based on what I saw on the Jones Airfoil web site. Full disclosure . . . my picavet is 100% NON-controllable, with the extra benefit of a more complicated (tangle-able) suspension rig than the Jones.

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 10:20 AM
by basicbill
goestoeleven wrote:Hey basicbill -

Question for you - is that KAP rig remote controllable or fixed? I'm guessing "fixed" based on what I saw on the Jones Airfoil web site. Full disclosure . . . my picavet is 100% NON-controllable, with the extra benefit of a more complicated (tangle-able) suspension rig than the Jones.


It is fixed. But you are able to manually "aim" the camera in a general direction before launching. Then the "feather" keeps it oriented. Last night I tried aiming it approximately perpendicular to the kite line toward the sunset. Worked fine. Nothing great about the sunset capture.
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Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Mon, Jun 30 2014, 10:24 AM
by goestoeleven
Nothing great? Sure looks purdy to me . . .

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sat, Jul 05 2014, 03:27 PM
by basicbill
Out to the Burlington Prairie Forest Preserve to practice my KAP technique.

Nothing special from the photos since there's really not much to see.

Here's the parking area looking to the northeast.
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I've come to the conclusion that the area is not well suited for multi-line flying. Not enough low grassy space unless you're using short lines. Nice for SLK,though.

I decided to maneuver the camera around a bit as some of the more experienced KAPers do. This is looking to the northwest.
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The UltraFoil 15 was not up too high. Maybe 200 feet. About 15 mph wind in the gusts. If the wind had been much stronger I would have needed to use the 200# line, I think. Not the 150.

Bill

Re: First KAP

Posted: Sat, Jul 05 2014, 04:03 PM
by goestoeleven
Nice!