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New flow form

Posted: Sat, Nov 25 2006, 11:35 PM
by Chris
Hey folks, I think I have decided to purchase a Flow form. I am looking at either a 4.0 or 7.0. I want to lift laundry, and put some really long tails on it. I know we have a couple of single liners out there, can you give me some pointers please. I also would like to know, what the best method for anchoring is, and if I really need the 7.0. The 4.0 is obviously a little more affordable :-D Thanks

-Chris

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Sun, Nov 26 2006, 01:55 PM
by Grant L
Hi Chris,
I don't have a floform but I do have a Lynn Pilot that I made at MAKR this year. The anchor depends on where you are going to fly it. At the beach, sand anchors work great and are easy and small to carry around, ( my sand anchor did get dragged down the beach last year in Grand Haven but it was gusting to over 30 MPH :shock: and I should have maybe had two out :oops: ) For grass, Stakes are the way to go. While I have used them for smaller kites, I have heard warnings from people that I trust, to stay away from the screw in dog stakes. I have some big ground stakes that I got from Gomerg. I am aslo in the process of geting some more. CAll up a tent rental place in your local area and ask about buying some used stakes from them. They usually have a bin of them and will sell you a couple cheap. You might have to clean them up a little and paint them but that's no big deal. Gomberg has what you need, ( I checked first and the forum sponsor doesn't carry the items :-D ,) it is just that the stakes are heavy and the postage will show this. Gomberg does have a great section on flying big kites. Look HERE :-D :-D :-D

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Mon, Nov 27 2006, 10:59 AM
by Draftnik
JJ flies a PL Pilot from MAKR like Grants (Hiya Grant!). The 4 pieces of smallish line laundry we made at MAKR don't phase it. We use dog stakes, but look for weight rated ones. I think the ones we have are rated 500lbs. That said, our 50lb dog managed to bend one at Naperville. :shock: Not sure how she did it, but I think it was sticking outa the ground too far.

We also have a nail from concrete forms. It's 30 - 36" long and is similar to a length of rebar. It has a nail head on it, and a point and no texture like the rebar has. These get left on construction sites often, so the price is right. I have a contractor that'll save them for me, if no one comes back to claim them.

Also, tie off with a larkshead on the flying line to a loop and knot of huge heavy line attached to the stakes. It'll save your line. I stake the SPLAT rok and it tears up my line. Even when I tie my line off to the smooth dog stakes or carbiners. After a summer of tieing it off in roughtly the same spot, the lines start to look a little raggity. Kiteguy taught me this trick over on Kitebuilder. I'll look and see if I can locate a pic for you.

Re: New flow form

Posted: Mon, Nov 27 2006, 06:49 PM
by Mike
Those big 'ol nails left behind at construction sites sound like something you might be able to collect, eh Chris?

Re: New flow form

Posted: Mon, Nov 27 2006, 09:44 PM
by Chris
Yeah, now that I have a use for them, I won't be able to find them :wink: I decided on the Gomberg super sled (sorry David, but I did get a spool of line :thanks: ) It's 40 square feet, for only $56! I don't think I could MAKE it for less.

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It will be red with black and white accents, with a couple of flat transition tails. I'll post pics, when I get it :mrgreen:

Re: New flow form

Posted: Mon, Nov 27 2006, 10:26 PM
by Frodos Majik
That was going to be my next one to make, but the scaled down version. :P Its called a double parasled. Cant wait to see it!! Yours that is. :up:

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Tue, Nov 28 2006, 09:27 PM
by denverberry
Chris, when that comes in can I have it? :zip: Oh man, I know I didn't just say that :wallb: Anyway, look forward to checking that one out. I've been wanting to make one to mark my spot at the beach, but if you say you can get those for 60 bucks I might just up for one next summer.

I still have a couple more Rev's to buy first.

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 04:25 PM
by Chris
I was out front putting back up my Christmas train that the wind blew over, when the mail lady drove up with my new sled!!! That was two hours ago, I was able to go and send her up for about twenty minutes, but my helper got cold and we had to go :cry: Managed to get a few dark and dreary pics though :-D

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Now I just have to make my 120's, and I'm ready for the next club fly!! :clubfly:

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 07:02 PM
by Mike
Nice transition tails on there. I bet it makes a nice presence in the sky.
That's a cute little helper you have there standing next to a big 'ol strap.

You seem to be using a dog stake, so the kite can't be pulling thaaaat hard.

What weight line do you have attached to the strap and what's the pull like on that kite?

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 07:07 PM
by Chris
I have 200lb black dacron, and flying in 7-14mph, it dosen't pull much more than the Blast. I'll have to get a fish scale and find out :-D

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 08:26 PM
by Draftnik
Oh, black dacron line. D'j'u get that from Dave?

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 08:58 PM
by Chris
Shhhh, I got it from Gomberg :wink: I ordered it with the kite, it's pretty thick stuff, easy on the hands :-D

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 11:05 PM
by Frodos Majik
Nice looking kite Chris, cute helper too!!

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 11:31 PM
by Babbman
Well CRAP, here's a whole other side to kiting that I didn't consider.... I need to make more money to spend more money on kites....

Cool kite Chris... little cutie helper too...

Re: New flow form

Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2006, 11:46 PM
by Frodos Majik
Thats right Babbman, you need a few SLK up in the sky. To draw the attention of the passer byes from a distance. :wink: :wink: :lol:

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Fri, Dec 01 2006, 12:13 AM
by denverberry
With all this SLK talk, I just might have to make a trip to the hardware store so I can build some hard-shell kite boxes for my bamboo critters. I'm still just so afraid to put them darned spendy things up though. I'm really dieing to see that dragon in the sky too.

I hate you guys :wallb:

Re: New flow form

Posted: Fri, Dec 01 2006, 06:10 AM
by Chris
We like you too :twisted:

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:13 PM
by denverberry
:P

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:27 PM
by awindofchange
Hey Babbman, you'll have to check out my Peter Lynn Maxi Fish, my Premier eel and my new (well, new to me anyways) Jeff Howard 200. There's a whole world of SLK's out there that will help make room in that wallet of yours. SLK's can be really fun, especially when there is a large group of you decorating the sky. :twisted:

Re: New Flow Form

Posted: Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:40 PM
by denverberry
The key is just to get the kites up all at the same time... It doesn't really matter who's wallet is lighter! When they're up we forget about that kind of politics.

So that being said, do you have any cool giva-a-way's? :bash: christmas is comming up...