Appliqueing

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Appliqueing

Postby Frodos Majik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 12:15 AM

What is the best way to applique two color lettering? I want to have say a black out line around my red lettering.

Would I start with:

1 - Cutting out the red letter, then sew that to my black layer.
2 - Cut out the backside of the black, so the light can show through to the red.
3 - Sew the two layers on the outer edge of the black ( thickness of the shadowing) to my kite.
4 - Cut out the backside again from the kite.
5 - Trim the black on the front side of my kite to get the same shape as the red?

Here is a sample of what I want to do...
http://www.jesters-court.net/pics/jester-mockup2.gif
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 12:52 AM

:blink2: Black Magic Marker?

What I'm seeing here would not just be a lot of time, it looks like it would add much weight and parasitic drag. (assuming kite application)
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 12:53 AM

Oh, you took the jester link back out of your post?
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Frodos Majik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 12:55 AM

Were you able to see it? it didnt show up as a link when I put it in, will set it back in.
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Re: Appliqueing

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Frodos Majik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:08 AM

Thanks, this damn box DOES NOT always work for me!! :twisted: :twisted: I dont understand either, cause when I preview it come up right. But not when I submit. :roll: :roll: :twisted:
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:10 AM

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:12 AM

Just copy the exact URL and paste to the post manually. It works good enough.
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:14 AM

Now try using a machine that is 100% reliant on the cell tower's signal!
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:20 AM

There are times when I'm tempted to just go with a long-wire antenna run up about 200 feet with an SLK!

I only tried that one time, about 50 feet of long-wire is all I had at the time, used that on a short-wave radio. It only helped one station up in Oregon that I didn't listen to, so I never ran it up again.
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby denverberry » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 01:21 AM

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Mike » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 07:58 AM

What color is the kite/background going to be?
How big will the letters be?
I don't think the black lines within the letters will show when the kite is high up in the sky. Try looking at your computer screen from across the room.

There's more than one way to do it.
Depending on how big everything is, I would probably put a layer of red on top of the kite, and then a layer of black.
Either draw the letter backwards on the back of the kite, or the facing the right way on the front (black material) and sew and sew.
Then cut out the bits you don't need.

Keep in mind that the width of your stitch will not be cut out and will make a border to your letter. For example, assume you sew the red on the black and then cut out the black behind the red letter. Looking at it on the table will be a red letter surrounded by black. Holding it up to the light, the red letter will shrink by the width of your stitching because the black on the back of the red letter where the stitching is will show thru.
That may not have been very clear. Grab some scrap material and try sewing a red rectangle on black material and cutting it out like a letter to see what I mean.

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Draftnik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 09:17 AM

Black is hard to see and sew on. So, that's why you're getting suggestions to sew on the backside of the kite.

Basically, you want to layer darkest to lightest to minimize the colors showing through. The darkest colors on the front of the kite will hide the colors behind it.

White has the least shadow effect of all the colors, so if it's on the back you may not need to trim it away.

Stack and whack is the quilters term for the last method Mike mentioned.
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Mike » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 10:30 AM

It really depends on the size of the letters. If they are small with fine detail, I would do something closer to what you originally proposed and do some hot cutting first. That's what I did on the IKE pocket kite. I figured I might be doing this again so I printed the pattern to a piece of cardstock and cut it out to make a stencil. For each square, I hot cut out the kite silhouette before doing any sewing.
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On the Snowman kite
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I hot cut all the little snowflake circles out of the blue.
Then I hot cut a bunch of circles out of white material and sewed them on the back side. Saved a lot of back-cutting with little scissors. It's not as neat looking if you look close because the white isn't trimmed just-so but looks just the same in the sky. And as you know, I'm a founding member of the 100' kite club--our kites look good from 100' away :-D

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Mike » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 04:03 PM

I just saw your post over at another forum. I like Steve's method. You might want to copy his post over here to archive it.
But do a test run with the spray adhesive. I've had trouble with it gumming up my machine. Go real light and wait a few minutes for it to dry.
I've used "3M spray mount artists adhesive" which was the least strong I could find. Others were using the very same spray at MAKR and had no problems, so YMMV.

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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Frodos Majik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 07:20 PM

Thanks everybody for your input. As far as size, not quite sure what size just yet. I want to do something along the lines of the whole picture on a Rok. Jester"s hat and all. Just feeling it all out.
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Draftnik » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 09:28 PM

I use the kids glue sticks, the washable kind. Then I have to wash the kite when I'm done. I can avoid getting it where I sew, but it doens't gum up if I don't. AND I'm not working with a bunch of stinky chemicals.
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Re: Appliqueing

Postby Mike » Fri, Dec 01 2006, 09:48 PM

I use washable glue sticks too. I use it sparingly and haven't bothered to wash the kites. Just use something damp to wipe off the bits that are exposed.


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