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Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 09:20 AM
by Jeepster
The Fled kite would be a good choice. Here's a link to a discussion on building a FLED.

Another choice might be a mini mock kite ... the advantage is that it's a soft kite without rods. It also might tempt folks to tackle a larger soft kite ... could be good practice for Big Mike and his Pit Bull. The poor Pit Bull is currently still in kit form gathering dust. Here's a link to a similar discussion on building a Mini Mock.

February looks like it would be a good choice. We're thinking of head out to Kite Party early in March.

Thanks for the response on bridle lines.

Cheers,
Tom

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 11:16 AM
by Jeepster
It flys ... It flys ... It flys ...

Sewed the tabs on yesterday and made the bridle lines. The bridle lines are 2.5 times the diameter. From holding the bridle lines together at the 1.5 diameter mark, I'd suggest that James is right on with his comment that anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 times the diameter will work well.

Again James, thanks for leading this class!!!

Cheers,
Tom

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Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 26 2009, 08:04 PM
by RevJB
OK,

My goal is to finish in 2009.

I have finished hemming all the triangles and have a few questions:

1.) Should I cut the tips off to make them all equal size triangles?

2.) Can I attach the tabs to the triangles before I attach all the triangles together?

3.) Should the tabs (James gave me the material, it's white edging, not dacron) be folded in half and should they only be on one side, or sandwich the triangle between it?
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Any other advice?

Thanks for the help.

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 26 2009, 10:59 PM
by Jeepster
John,

Can't post the "right" answer ... only what I found out with mine. First, remember the 100 foot rule!!! Then,

1.) Should I cut the tips off to make them all equal size triangles?

Minor differences in height will disappear when the pieces are sewn together. I'd only cut off enough to make the tips about 1/4 inch wide ... the really narrow tips are a little hard to sew down.

2.) Can I attach the tabs to the triangles before I attach all the triangles together?

With the "easy bol", there should not be a problem sewing the tabs on before sewing the triangles together. With my not-so-easy method, I sewed the triangles together, then sewed around the interior and exterior diameters ... thus, the tabs had to be put on last.

3.) Should the tabs (James gave me the material, it's white edging, not dacron) be folded in half and should they only be on one side, or sandwich the triangle between it?

After seeing the webbing that James gave you, I went out and bought some 3/8 inch webbing ... it looks better than the folded over nylon. I sewed the webbing on with out doubling it over ... side to side that is. Sandwich the triangle between the two ends of the webbing for a stronger junction.

Cheers,
Tom

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 27 2009, 12:31 AM
by RevJB
Tom,

:thanks:

Six triangles attached before the bobbin ran out. Calling it quits tonight.

I have new found respect for sweatshop labor. I'd starve if I had to work piece rate.

Jeepster wrote:John,

First, remember the 100 foot rule!!! ...

2.) Can I attach the tabs to the triangles before I attach all the triangles together?

With the "easy bol", there should not be a problem sewing the tabs on before sewing the triangles together. With my not-so-easy method, I sewed the triangles together, then sewed around the interior and exterior diameters ... thus, the tabs had to be put on last.

3.) Should the tabs (James gave me the material, it's white edging, not dacron) be folded in half and should they only be on one side, or sandwich the triangle between it?

After seeing the webbing that James gave you, I went out and bought some 3/8 inch webbing ... it looks better than the folded over nylon. I sewed the webbing on with out doubling it over ... side to side that is. Sandwich the triangle between the two ends of the webbing for a stronger junction.

Cheers,
Tom


Maybe I should go with a longer bridle to go for the 200' rule. :-D

2.) What did you mean by you sewed around the interior and exterior diameters? Did you reinforce the leading and trailing edge? Did you do that after you completely connected the circle?

3.) Does this mean you used it like the third picture, but sandwiched it in? Did you come straight off the edge like I showed or 45 degrees to what I show and bisect the angle?

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 27 2009, 07:48 AM
by Jeepster
RevJB wrote:I have new found respect for sweatshop labor. I'd starve if I had to work piece rate.

Maybe I should go with a longer bridle to go for the 200' rule. :-D

2.) What did you mean by you sewed around the interior and exterior diameters? Did you reinforce the leading and trailing edge? Did you do that after you completely connected the circle?

3.) Does this mean you used it like the third picture, but sandwiched it in? Did you come straight off the edge like I showed or 45 degrees to what I show and bisect the angle?


When you look at all of the small panels that are fit carefully together on a B-series or a Pro, it makes you wonder if minimum wage wouldn't be a salary increase. I'd really like to see how Bazzer does it.

Trust me, the 100 foot rule covers a multitude of sins!!!

2) The first stitch on my bol was to sew the triangles together ... to each other. Once that was accomplished, the interior diameter received a single loop around. Then the exterior diameter received a single loop around. Obviously wasn't according to instructions, but that seems to be the fun of kite building ... do it any way you want!!!

3) Yes, unfolded like the third picture. The webbing was like the bread on a sandwich with the nylon triangle serving as the meat. Since I installed triangular reinforcement pieces, I did come off the corner at an angle ... not the correct angle though ... geez!!! Since you don't have the reinforcement pieces on your bol, I'd sew the webbing to the hem for strength purposes. The pull on the bol is very light, so it won't cause any problems.

Pictures when it's launched would be great!!

Cheers,
Tom

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 27 2009, 05:53 PM
by RevJB
Jeepster,

Thanks for answers.

Not flying yet, but true progress! All panels sewed.
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Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Fri, Jan 01 2010, 10:11 PM
by RevJB
Completed!

Flown for 30 seconds and then wind died. Pictures to follow.

Question on how to connect bridles to swivel and line/strap

I put loops in both ends of bridle lines.
Larks head one end of loops to kite tabs.
Carabiner all the loops on the other end
loop on carabiner to swivel side A
loop on swivel side B
Larkshead to strap

Is this correct?

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Fri, Jan 01 2010, 10:21 PM
by Jeepster
RevJB wrote:Completed! ... Is this correct?

Sounds like it will work.

I didn't use a carabiner ... simply larksheaded the second loops to a straight piece of line. Once all the second loops were attached, I knotted the straight piece of line into a loop. That loop was then larksheaded to side A on the swivel. Made a second loop which was then larksheaded to side B on the swivel and to the strap.

Glad you finished it in time for the new year.

Cheers,
Tom