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Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 04:17 PM
by Mike

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 05:02 PM
by Jeepster
Mike,

I'll be there!!! Anything that Anne has available is great for me ... never met a meal I didn't like. Well, almost ...

Thanks Anne!!!

Cheers,
Tom

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 06:51 PM
by Anne
HELLO! I am so happy that we are having the build! I am looking forward to it. What time is everyone going to get here?

I haven't been on the forum in a long time. LOL...

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 08:00 PM
by Mike
James or Big Mike: set a time that works for y'all.
I'll eat what you're serving and I'll enjoy it!

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 10:42 AM
by Pkrekel
I am planning on bing there

paul

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 11:25 AM
by Pkrekel
Not to sound like newbie (which I am) what weight of nylon do we need?

Paul

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 06:37 PM
by RevJB
I'll be there and I have the same question as Paul. Also, should it be nylon or polyester ripstop?

If I decide to precut the triangles, can I use a soldering iron to hot cut it?

Does anyone have a brand name or link for edgebinding? How much do I need? Are there different widths?

@Anne: All food is good food. :-) Do you need me to bring anything? Some frosty beverages?

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 07:31 PM
by Mux11
weight of the fabric is not much of an issue. I have read where people have used hot air balloon nylon which is pretty heavy stuff and others have used scrap umbrellas. You could get really inspired and use plastic sheet like a garbage bag, but I would stear you towards either th .75 - 1.5oz ripstop.

John - Edgebnding- making the 8' you will need about 6yards. Although it does provide a nice finish I am planning to do the double fold edge for simplicity. I also will have my edgebinding foot for the sewig machine that I have used for double folding and attaching seperate edgebinding to projects and is super slick.

There are different widths and I tend to use the .75" straight. LINK HERE


For all -- I will be ordering materials tomorrow so if I can add what you need to my order I would be happy to.

I will have enough swivels, strapping (for handles) , and some odds and ends or those in need.

If you have questions feel free to contact me - Jp@qckite.com or 563.650.4143
James

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 08:18 PM
by Mike
John, if you plan on using any left over scraps, most SLKs are made with .75 oz nylon ripstop. The seconds at Kitebuilder are all good quality.
And yes, you can use a soldering iron on a piece of glass or cheap mirror. It works great.

James, I'm looking forward to seeing the edgebinder in action.

Jeff: I haven't seen you chime in here. I know you were interested in making a Fled (right?). If you want to bring the makings and plans for that, I could work with you. Just let me know. If you haven't sown before, you may want to make the Bol as a first project though.

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Fri, Dec 04 2009, 04:48 PM
by RevJB
Looks like Lauren wants to help me sew and will be available.

Is this a guys only, or open sew?

What are ballpark start and stop times?

Thanks

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Fri, Dec 04 2009, 07:30 PM
by Frodos Majik
Just to let everyone know I might be stopping by to hang out with you all for awhile. Its been way too long since I have seen most of you.

Also I will be bringing the rolls of ripstop material for anyone that would like to use, if by chance the colors that are in your sample packs are NOT what you want to use. I will post colors that I have later tonght or tomorrow morning. :up:

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 05 2009, 03:08 AM
by Frodos Majik
All righty then here you go with choices of color...

Pink, Blue, Green, Red, Lime Green, Light Blue, Yellow, Purple, Lemon Yellow, Teal and White.

I will be bringing them all, so dont worry bout asking for a certain color to be brought. :-)

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 05 2009, 06:03 AM
by Mike
RevJB wrote:Looks like Lauren wants to help me sew and will be available.

Is this a guys only, or open sew?

What are ballpark start and stop times?

Thanks


Of course Lauren can come. It'll be great to have her there.
I'd like to know the time to arrive also...

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 05 2009, 10:20 PM
by Babbman
I'd love to be there but December is usually extremely tied up and this year, even worse...

My mom is still in the hospital and probably coming home on the 12th, so I'll be taking a pass.

But it doesn't mean I can't build one sometime before the next season...

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Tue, Dec 08 2009, 09:44 PM
by Mux11
TIME - you say????

Well 10am start time would allow me to leave about 6am for the drive with a bit of fudge.

Im working on a demo that will be in different stages so it will be easy to see whats happening next
so no matter what stage your at it should be a smooth process.

cheers
jp

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sat, Dec 12 2009, 06:20 AM
by Mux11
GOOD MORNING KITE BUILDERS
Patten family is loading up and heading out - see ya in a few hours

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 13 2009, 10:22 AM
by Jeepster
Thanks James for the lessons on Bol making! A big thanks to Big Mike and Anne for providing both shelter and food. And thanks to everyone for the fellowship and kidding. Paul and Ken showed up just to hang out ... glad you came.

This was John and Loren's first crack at "kite" building, so they learned the lessons and completed part of the bol. Mike K had some sewing machine problems, so also didn't finish. James gave everyone a long head start, then proceeded to build a split color four footer in record time ... looks like he only has two speeds on his sewing machine; off and full speed!!! Big Mike had sewing machine problems last year, so he showed up with a new electronic machine and pre-cut fabric ... yep, he flew his bol at the end of the building session. Actually it was extra neat because Zack did 90 % of the sewing ... the kid's good!

My material was also pre-cut ... had one yard of blue and one of red, so made my triangles 36 inches high for a 58" diameter bol. Unfortunately, I decided to turn the easy bol into a not-so-easy easy bol ... tricked Big Mike into following suit. Instead of using the simple overlap seam, we used a flat felt seam. Doing the flat felt without double sewing or without seam tape is probably not on the "recommended practices" list, but both bols turned out looking good. Need to sew on my attachment points and make the bridle lines ... I had to quit after Anne asked if I was going to stay the night!!!

@James ... one question came to mind late last night. We cut Big Mike's bridle lines 2-1/2 times the diameter ... and obviously it flew well. John and I did some mental arithmetic right at the end of the day and made a mistake ... he only has enough bridle line to cut his at 2 times the diameter. In reading the instructions, they call for bridle lines that are 1-1/2 times the diameter. Can you give us some direction on what, in your estimation, is the best length?

Cheers,
Tom

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 13 2009, 12:56 PM
by RevJB
A good time was had by all!

I echo Jeepster's thanks to the Stephensons for hosting the event (great Italian Beef) and James for bringing supplies and organizing it.

My thanks to Ken for getting my sewing machine adjusted and ready to fly ( or maybe hover would be more accurate)

Just like flying, it is much easier to start surrounded by experts. It really was painless.

James definitely takes the speed sewing award. I don't think he actually sews his pieces together. I think they are fused from friction burns.

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 13 2009, 11:01 PM
by Mux11
Thanks to everyone! It's amazing how much I learned from just watching what and how you were doing things.
The food was amazing and I cant imagine the work that went into it. Thanks Mike & Anne!

Great to see everybody and we will have to do this again soon.

Tom - To answer your question best i can. Other posts will say that you can not have too long of bridal lines on a bol. Im not so sure. My MAKR bol that is 8' has between 3-4x diameter lines and they tangle up about 2' away from the swivel and I plan to shorten them. I think youll be fine at 2x d ; with the instructions being from practical assembly & testing I would say there is a 1.5xd to 2.5xd window will work.

What would all of you say to doing another build , say Feb ??? Perhaps a Fled? If i work on finding a way to work on the kit price and such... Other wise we could do a collective fugu that is a crowd eating monster :)

Sooooooooo... how about some feedback.
What you liked, didnt like, would like to have/see...... post it here or send me a pm

I was thinking on my drive back, perhaps putting in stations and a bit of a schedule sort of thing might help.... whatcha think?

now back to the table where I have an 11' ROK, a Jordan 200 & Tails to get cranked out.

Cheers and thank you again!
James

Re: Club Bol Build

Posted: Sun, Dec 13 2009, 11:27 PM
by Frodos Majik
Yep it was a BLAST to hang out with everyone, as was said yesterday "Its been way to loooooong".

Mike and Anne yes :thanks: for the spread!!!! Of course my gut could have used just a few
LESS COOKIES!! :twisted:

John NO problem with help you and getting started with the sewing machine, and yes would have to agree, it is much easier getting going with experienced people round you to guide along. 8)

James was a great idea of doing the bol class.

Till next time.